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	<title>Comments on: Deferred Examination:  Does Putting Things Off Lesson Your Workload?</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen Albainy-Jenei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Albainy-Jenei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patatty30:

I agree that there already seems to be a &quot;deferred examination&quot; -- the current backlog.  If any deferred examination is longer and on top of the already long backlog, the marketplace will be left with a potential threat hanging over their head for quite some time.

I firmly believe that what the marketplace prefers most is certainty.  The uncertainty of deferred examination could be a drag on innovation and the economy.

Stephen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patatty30:</p>
<p>I agree that there already seems to be a &#8220;deferred examination&#8221; &#8212; the current backlog.  If any deferred examination is longer and on top of the already long backlog, the marketplace will be left with a potential threat hanging over their head for quite some time.</p>
<p>I firmly believe that what the marketplace prefers most is certainty.  The uncertainty of deferred examination could be a drag on innovation and the economy.</p>
<p>Stephen</p>
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		<title>By: patatty30</title>
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		<dc:creator>patatty30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it even make a difference?

Doesn&#039;t the current normal wait time until 1st office action (40 months) without any deferral effectively defer examination?

If deferral would be available at most 3 years from earliest filing and current wait time is 3 yrs 4 mos..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it even make a difference?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t the current normal wait time until 1st office action (40 months) without any deferral effectively defer examination?</p>
<p>If deferral would be available at most 3 years from earliest filing and current wait time is 3 yrs 4 mos..</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Zall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Zall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 15:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will be seeing a drastic drop in trademark and patent filings...from 20%-40%. Look at history. The backlog will be irrelevant in another year or two. The Examiners will be glad to have a job and perhaps..just perhaps..relationships will improve between the Examiners and the attorneys that feed them work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will be seeing a drastic drop in trademark and patent filings&#8230;from 20%-40%. Look at history. The backlog will be irrelevant in another year or two. The Examiners will be glad to have a job and perhaps..just perhaps..relationships will improve between the Examiners and the attorneys that feed them work.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxDrei</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxDrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 13:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may assert that what the UK does is irrelevant.  But UK law since 1949 has always included a cap on the number of years a patent application can remain pending. Currently 4.5 years from priority date. And it caps all the divisionals too. So, the public will know, 5 years from the priotity date, the MAXIMUM scope of protection that the Applicant has been able to squeeze out of that patent application. That, I would say, is the opposite of deferred examination. As far as I know, the ONLY reason any Patent Office asks for, and gets, DE is because it can&#039;t cope.  Poor reason, I would say. DE damages legal certainty, I would say. DE deters investment in new technology, I would say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may assert that what the UK does is irrelevant.  But UK law since 1949 has always included a cap on the number of years a patent application can remain pending. Currently 4.5 years from priority date. And it caps all the divisionals too. So, the public will know, 5 years from the priotity date, the MAXIMUM scope of protection that the Applicant has been able to squeeze out of that patent application. That, I would say, is the opposite of deferred examination. As far as I know, the ONLY reason any Patent Office asks for, and gets, DE is because it can&#8217;t cope.  Poor reason, I would say. DE damages legal certainty, I would say. DE deters investment in new technology, I would say.</p>
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		<title>By: AH</title>
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		<dc:creator>AH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t agree.  Deferred examination is used elsewhere in the world, and in such places roughly 1/3 of cases are abandoned without examination.  At present, in the PTO, once the initial fees are paid, there&#039;s no incentive to abandon the case before examination.  If examination could be deferred, then applicants would select which cases are examined and the less important cases would not be examined.

I don&#039;t see the risk that applicants will flood the PTO with applications to create prior art against third parties.  There are cheaper ways to publish a disclosure of something.  

Experience with 1.103 deferral is not relevant.  Applicants still have to pay initial fees, so there&#039;s few occasions  to defer examination.  Deferred examination, with a deferred examination fee, would be utilized frequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree.  Deferred examination is used elsewhere in the world, and in such places roughly 1/3 of cases are abandoned without examination.  At present, in the PTO, once the initial fees are paid, there&#8217;s no incentive to abandon the case before examination.  If examination could be deferred, then applicants would select which cases are examined and the less important cases would not be examined.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the risk that applicants will flood the PTO with applications to create prior art against third parties.  There are cheaper ways to publish a disclosure of something.  </p>
<p>Experience with 1.103 deferral is not relevant.  Applicants still have to pay initial fees, so there&#8217;s few occasions  to defer examination.  Deferred examination, with a deferred examination fee, would be utilized frequently.</p>
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