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	<title>Comments on: Motley Fools Pronounce a Code of Conduct for Licensing</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Carr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Carr</dc:creator>
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		<description>I just don&#039;t get it.  Large companies regularly enforce their IP even though such IP is not central to their business activities (IBM).  How is that different than a holding company&#039;s enforcement activities, especially if they shares royalties with the inventor who otherwise would never be rewarded for their efforts? I think we are hearing the infringer&#039;s PR department pitch.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just don&#8217;t get it.  Large companies regularly enforce their IP even though such IP is not central to their business activities (IBM).  How is that different than a holding company&#8217;s enforcement activities, especially if they shares royalties with the inventor who otherwise would never be rewarded for their efforts? I think we are hearing the infringer&#8217;s PR department pitch.</p>
<p>Be careful.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Heinze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Heinze</dc:creator>
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		<description>Thanks for the great material that I used at http://ip-updates.blogspot.com/2005/05/tgif-for-patent-terrorism-foolishness.html.

--Bill Heinze
www.ip-updates.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great material that I used at <a href="http://ip-updates.blogspot.com/2005/05/tgif-for-patent-terrorism-foolishness.html" rel="nofollow">http://ip-updates.blogspot.com/2005/05/tgif-for-patent-terrorism-foolishness.html</a>.</p>
<p>&#8211;Bill Heinze<br />
<a href="http://www.ip-updates.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ip-updates.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: DanMcGlinchey</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanMcGlinchey</dc:creator>
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		<description>Great article--here&#039;s a edited version of my running dialogue with the Business Week reporter who authored this-http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_16/b3929089_mz063.htm

He finally admitted that a company like Ampex might like, yeah, actually own IP and be entitled to, like, collect on it.  

Patent trolls is a neat little term the Intels of the world have come up with--but I guess people who steal IP are still just patent thieves, correct?
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:28 PM
To: Ante, Spencer
Subject: RE: re ampex


Re Shulman--my point was that he is often hired to defend infringers, so he does have an ax to grind with his perspective.   What is ironic is the Wilson Sonsini handled the IPO for Dolby Labs recently, a company with a very similiar business model to Ampex, although much larger.  As you may know, Ray Dolby was at Ampex in the 50&#039;s.  His brother Dale worked at Ampex for years.  As a matter of fact, he is named on some of the patents Shulman is so exercised about.  I wonder if Tom DeFilipps, who is the partner out of the Palo Alto office advising Dolby, will appreciate Mr. Shulman&#039;s rheotoric. 




From: Ante, Spencer [mailto:Spencer_Ante@businessweek.com]
Sent: Fri 4/8/2005 4:11 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: re ampex

Thanks for your thoughts. There’s no conflict with Shulman given that he’s making negative comments about Ampex, not Kodak.

Your point about the time it takes to commercialize technology is a good one. But again, I did not take a position on Ampex and whether it was a patent troll. I merely reported the two sides of the debate, and impressions of others.

Spencer

Original Message
From: Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:43 AM
To: Ante, Spencer
Subject: RE: re ampex

Hope you will disclose that Ron Shulman lost a very high profile case against Kodak for patent infringement just this past October representing Sun who had to bring in somebody else.  http://www.nylawyer.com/news/04/10/100704k.html

Does the fact that patents created for their products introduced to the professional market in the early to mid 90’s took until the early 2000’s to be used in mass consumer products somehow negate the fact that it is their intellectual property and that they should be paid for its use?

Also, here is a list of royalty collections over the past years. Does not include 2004. Hardly a “dusting off of patents” . 

Royalty Income by Year
 Royalty 
 
   Sources: Annual Reports by Year
 Income (millions)
 
    2003
 10.1
  2002
 4
   2001
 12.1
  2000
 12.3
 1999
 19.9
 1998
 10.6
 1997
 12.6
 1996
 10.5
 1995
 15.6
 1994
 7.4
 1993
 2.6
 1992
 15.036
 1991
 62.91
 1990
 8.2
 1989
 31.2
 1988
 27.3
 1987
 12.3
 Total
 274.646
 
Original Message
From: Ante, Spencer [mailto:Spencer_Ante@businessweek.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:30 AM
Subject: RE: re ampex


Thanks for your note.

I did not take a personal stand on this issue but several lawyers I spoke with seemed to feel that this was a legitimate point/perception, especially in Silicon Valley.

One lawyer I spoke with, Wilson Sonsini’s Ron Shulman, called Ampex a “slightly more civilized version of a patent terrorist.”

The reason according to him is that Ampex, though it was innovative in the past, has not really done anything of import for a long time.

We will be posting an interview with Shulman on the Web site soon. 

Anyway, as the story shows, there are other issues to be concerned about with Ampex as well from an investor’s perspective.



Best,

Spencer



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article&#8211;here&#8217;s a edited version of my running dialogue with the Business Week reporter who authored this-http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_16/b3929089_mz063.htm</p>
<p>He finally admitted that a company like Ampex might like, yeah, actually own IP and be entitled to, like, collect on it.  </p>
<p>Patent trolls is a neat little term the Intels of the world have come up with&#8211;but I guess people who steal IP are still just patent thieves, correct?<br />
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 5:28 PM<br />
To: Ante, Spencer<br />
Subject: RE: re ampex</p>
<p>Re Shulman&#8211;my point was that he is often hired to defend infringers, so he does have an ax to grind with his perspective.   What is ironic is the Wilson Sonsini handled the IPO for Dolby Labs recently, a company with a very similiar business model to Ampex, although much larger.  As you may know, Ray Dolby was at Ampex in the 50&#8242;s.  His brother Dale worked at Ampex for years.  As a matter of fact, he is named on some of the patents Shulman is so exercised about.  I wonder if Tom DeFilipps, who is the partner out of the Palo Alto office advising Dolby, will appreciate Mr. Shulman&#8217;s rheotoric. </p>
<p>From: Ante, Spencer [mailto:Spencer_Ante@businessweek.com]<br />
Sent: Fri 4/8/2005 4:11 PM<br />
To:<br />
Subject: RE: re ampex</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts. There’s no conflict with Shulman given that he’s making negative comments about Ampex, not Kodak.</p>
<p>Your point about the time it takes to commercialize technology is a good one. But again, I did not take a position on Ampex and whether it was a patent troll. I merely reported the two sides of the debate, and impressions of others.</p>
<p>Spencer</p>
<p>Original Message<br />
From: Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:43 AM<br />
To: Ante, Spencer<br />
Subject: RE: re ampex</p>
<p>Hope you will disclose that Ron Shulman lost a very high profile case against Kodak for patent infringement just this past October representing Sun who had to bring in somebody else.  <a href="http://www.nylawyer.com/news/04/10/100704k.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nylawyer.com/news/04/10/100704k.html</a></p>
<p>Does the fact that patents created for their products introduced to the professional market in the early to mid 90’s took until the early 2000’s to be used in mass consumer products somehow negate the fact that it is their intellectual property and that they should be paid for its use?</p>
<p>Also, here is a list of royalty collections over the past years. Does not include 2004. Hardly a “dusting off of patents” . </p>
<p>Royalty Income by Year<br />
 Royalty </p>
<p>   Sources: Annual Reports by Year<br />
 Income (millions)</p>
<p>    2003<br />
 10.1<br />
  2002<br />
 4<br />
   2001<br />
 12.1<br />
  2000<br />
 12.3<br />
 1999<br />
 19.9<br />
 1998<br />
 10.6<br />
 1997<br />
 12.6<br />
 1996<br />
 10.5<br />
 1995<br />
 15.6<br />
 1994<br />
 7.4<br />
 1993<br />
 2.6<br />
 1992<br />
 15.036<br />
 1991<br />
 62.91<br />
 1990<br />
 8.2<br />
 1989<br />
 31.2<br />
 1988<br />
 27.3<br />
 1987<br />
 12.3<br />
 Total<br />
 274.646</p>
<p>Original Message<br />
From: Ante, Spencer [mailto:Spencer_Ante@businessweek.com]<br />
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 11:30 AM<br />
Subject: RE: re ampex</p>
<p>Thanks for your note.</p>
<p>I did not take a personal stand on this issue but several lawyers I spoke with seemed to feel that this was a legitimate point/perception, especially in Silicon Valley.</p>
<p>One lawyer I spoke with, Wilson Sonsini’s Ron Shulman, called Ampex a “slightly more civilized version of a patent terrorist.”</p>
<p>The reason according to him is that Ampex, though it was innovative in the past, has not really done anything of import for a long time.</p>
<p>We will be posting an interview with Shulman on the Web site soon. </p>
<p>Anyway, as the story shows, there are other issues to be concerned about with Ampex as well from an investor’s perspective.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Spencer</p>
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